Coordinator: | Good morning and welcome to the Third Quarter conference
call for investors and Republic Services. |
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Republic is traded in the New York Stock Exchange under the
symbol RSG. Your host this morning is Republic Chairman and
CEO, Jim OConnor. |
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Todays call is being recorded and all participants are in a
listen only mode. There will be a question and answer
session following Republics summary of quarterly earnings. |
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I will provide you with specific instructions for questions
later in the call. At this time my pleasure it is my
pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. OConnor, good morning
sir. |
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Jim OConnor: | Good morning and good morning to all of you and thank you
for joining us. This is Jim OConnor and Id like to welcome
everyone to Republic Services Third Quarter conference call. |
Tod Holmes, our Chief Financial Officer and Ed Lang, our
Treasurer are joining me as we discuss our third quarter
performance. |
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Id like to take a moment to remind everyone that some of
the information that we will discuss on todays call
contains forward-looking statements which involves risks and
uncertainties. And may be materially different from actual
results. |
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Our SEC filings discuss factors that could cause actual
results to differ materially from expectations. |
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Additionally, the material that we discuss with you today is
time sensitive. If in the future you listen to a
re-broadcast or a recording of this conference call, you
should be sensitive to the date of the original call, which
is October 31, 2008. |
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Please note that this call is the property of Republic
Services Incorporated. Any re-distribution, re-transmission
or re-broadcast of this call in any form without the
expressed written consent of Republic Services is strictly
prohibited. |
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On todays call I will review with you our views on the
pending merger with Allied Waste Industries. But first I
want to review the third quarter results where we continue
to see margin improvement. |
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Republic had revenue growth of 3.4% to $834 million. We
achieved internal growth of 4.2% with 7.3% of price
improvement and volume decline of 3.1%. |
Our third quarter volume decline was affected by the slow
down in construction activity. C&D volumes in our temporary
roll off business and third party C&D volumes at our
transfer station and landfill continue to be weak. |
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Price growth continues to be strong. Core pricing is up
3.8%. Pricing improvement is the most important factor in
covering rising costs and improving return on invested
capital. |
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Within our land fill business our core price was also up
approximately 3.4% in the quarter. Pricing for MSW landfill
volumes was up 4.2%. |
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The landfill business is very capital intense and requires
continued focus on pricing in order to achieve appropriate
risk adjusted returns. |
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And we again continue to utilize our return on investment
pricing on all renewals of franchise and municipal
contracts. |
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The biggest impact on our volume growth was in our temporary
roll off business, which decreased approximately 15%. |
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This decrease is due primarily to weak residential
construction volumes and is similar to the trend we have
experienced during the past three quarters. |
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Additionally, construction related landfill volumes are down
19%. Despite the net volume reductions, temporary roll off
pricing has remained stable. |
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Weve continued to adjust our workforce and our capital
spending to reflect lower business activity. By making these
adjustments, weve maintained our labor productivity. |
Operating margins for the third quarter were 20%. Fuel cost
increase approximately 180 basis points compared to the
third quarter of 2007. |
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EBITDA margins in the third quarter was 29.9%. Although the
economy is weaking weakening, the basic fundamentals and
operation disciplines of our business are in tact. |
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Our current stock price reflects valuation multiples that
are very low, at the very lowest levels and do not recognize
our ability to generate high levels of predictable free cash
flow in our business today and further after the closing of
the merger with Allied Waste. |
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We remain continue we remain focused on all the costs
components of our business to ensure that we remain
competitive in our marketplaces. |
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Republic has a number of significant achievements in the
quarter including our free cash flow for the third quarter
was $95 million. We believe our full cash our full year
cash flow performance will be within the range of our
guidance of $340 to $350 million, excluding merger-related
costs. |
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We began paying a higher dividend in October. The quarterly
dividend is 19 cents per share, which is a 12% increase. |
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Weve increased our dividend every year since we initiated
it five years ago. We will continue the 19-cent quarterly
dividend after the merger closing. |
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And at this time Id like to turn the call over to Tod
Holmes, our Chief Financial Officer for a review of our
financial performance in the third quarter, Tod. |
Tod Holmes: | Thank you Jim. Ill begin my review of the companys
financial results by discussing revenue. Again third quarter
2008 revenue rose by 3.4% to 834 million from 806 million
last year. |
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Thats an internal growth rate of 4.2%. Total price was
7.3%, with 3.8% coming from core price, 2.8% from field
surcharges, .4% from environmental fees and .3% from
commodities. |
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During the quarter we continued to benefit from our ongoing
price increase strategy in all lines of business. |
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Our third quarter core volume did decline 3.3%. This was
driven primarily by landfill volume which was down 2% and
temporary roll off volume related to the construction
industry, which is down 15%. |
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Divestitures and non-core operations accounting for the
remaining .6% reduction in our revenue, that was primarily
divestiture of our (Let Co) business in the fourth quarter
of last year. |
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Our third quarter year over year operating margin, year over
year operating margins increased by 410 basis points from
15.9% to 20%. During the third quarter of 2008, we recorded
$3.2 million of cost associated with our merger with Allied. |
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Excluding these costs, our operating margins for the third
quarter would have been 20.4%. |
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The key components to our year over year operating margin
improvement are as follows. The countywide landfill costs
that we incurred last year, 410 basis point improvement. |
Truck maintenance, positive 40 basis points, higher fuel
costs this year, negative 180 basis points, risk and health
insurance positive 90 basis points, disposal and
sub-contracting costs a positive 80 basis points. |
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Labor a positive 50 basis points, DD&A positive 20 basis
points, SG&A a negative 60 basis points and our integration
costs a negative 40 basis points. So that totals 410 basis
point improvement. |
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Now let me briefly comment on the components of our third
quarter year over year margin change. |
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First, truck maintenance. During the third quarter of 2008,
we continued to focus on costs savings initiatives and
improved pricing results, ex improve pricing resulted in a
reduction of truck maintenance expense. |
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Second, fuel. Our average wholesale price per gallon
increased from 2.76 in the third quarter of 07 to $4.13 in
the third quarter of 08. |
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Current fuel prices have come down. Theyre currently at
about 3.21 per gallon. |
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Third, the risk and health insurance costs. Our insurance
expense during the third quarter of 2008 was 4.7% of
revenue, which was lower then the prior year due to a
favorable settlement of older claims in the auto and general
liability lines of coverage. |
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Fourth, disposal and sub-contracting costs, this is our
largest cost category through which the impact of improved
pricing is clearly visible. |
Fifth, labor. During the quarter we continue to benefit from
productivity improvements and pricing which contributed to
the margin growth there. |
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Sixth, DD&A. The decrease in DD&A as a percentage of revenue
is primarily due to improved pricing. |
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And finally SG&A, excluding the integration costs, SG&A as a
percentage of revenue for the third quarter of 2008 would
have been 9.9%. This is a range which we feel is appropriate
in the longer term for Republic as a stand-alone company. |
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The increases in year over year SG&A as a percentage of
revenue is due to an increase in bad debt expense during the
third quarter of 2008. And a decrease in incentive
compensation expense during the third quarter of 2007. |
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Now our third quarter income before depreciation
amortization depletion and accretion. Excluding the
remediation charge at the county wide landfill in the third
quarter of 2007, and excluding the integration costs during
2008 for the Allied merger, our year over year income before
DD&A increased by 40 basis points from 29.8% to 30.2%. |
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Next Ill discuss free cash flow. Free cash flow for the
third quarter of 2008 was 67 million. This is based upon
cash provided by operating activities of 163 million. |
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Less purchases of property and equipment of 99 million, plus
proceeds from the sale of property of 3 million for a free
cash flow of 100, excuse me, of 67 million. |
Free cash flow for the nine months ended September 30 was
216 million. This based upon cash provided by operating
activities of 474 million, less purchases of property and
equipment of 264 million, plus proceeds from the sale of
property of 6 million, or the 216 million free cash flow. |
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Now I might point out that during the third quarter of 2008,
we made $28 million in cash payments for costs attributable
to our merger with Allied of which 3.2 million flowed
through the P&L. |
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The majority of these costs have been capitalized. And
excluding these payments, free cash flow for the three and
nine months ended September 30, 2008 would have been about
95 million and 244 million respectively. |
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We continue to believe that our free cash flow guidance of
340 to 350 million for fiscal 2008 is appropriate. And again
this guidance excludes merger related cash expenditures. |
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Republics balance sheet remains very strong. At September
30 our accounts receivable balance was 326 million, and our
day sales outstanding was 35 days. |
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Net debt was 1 billion 460 million, which is up from 1
billion 450 million at December 07. And our net debt to
total capital at September 30, 2008 is point is 53%. |
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In June, after announcing our merger with Allied, Republic
suspended its share repurchase program. Our actual share
count at September 30, 2008 was 182.2 million shares. |
Now Ill turn the call over to Ed Lang for an update on
financing related to the merger. |
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Ed Lang: | Thanks Tod. Id like to provide an update on our financing
plans. In order to meet the long-term liquidity needs in
Republic Services post merger, we set out the following
objectives. |
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First, obtain investment grade rating. Second, arrange for
two 2.75 billion of bank facility capacity for letters of
credit and short-term borrowing requirements. |
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And third, secure additional surety bond capacity at
attractive rates available to investment grade companies. |
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Last June, prior to the announcement of the merger, we met
with Standard and Poors and Moodys to review the proposed
transaction. |
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After our announcement, both agencies issued press releases
indigate (sic) indicating investment grade status. |
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In July we began the bank facility syndication by selecting
Bank of America and JP Morgan as co-leads. In order to
secure the $2.75 billion of bank capacity required, we
amended Republics existing $1 billion facility and
syndicated a new $1.75 billion facility. |
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We signed this documentation and went effective in mid
September. All financing for the merger that is required is
in place. |
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At the same time we began working with major providers of
surety bonds to address the increase requirements of
Republic post-merger. |
We were able to secure incremental capacity at rates
significantly lower then Allieds current costs. The ability
to secure investment grade status was vital to our success. |
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As far as debt maturities, Republic has only one mature -
debt maturity in 2009, approximately $100 million due in May
of next year. |
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The company has no debt maturities in 2010. The maturity in
May of 09 will be repaid with free cash flow from
operations. Jim will now provide additional information on
Republic and the merger process. |
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Jim OConnor: | Thanks Ed. Republics APS for the third quarter was 48
cents. This was a record level of earnings per share. Wed
like to reiterate our current earnings guidance of $1.78 to
$1.82 of earnings per share for the full year 2008,
excluding remediation and merger costs. |
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We provided 2008 cash flow guidance of $340 to $350 million
and believe that we will be within the ranges even though we
will increase our capital spending for collection vehicles
to take advantage of bonus depreciation. |
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Id like now to give you and update on our merger with
Allied. Im extremely pleased to report that this process
remains on track to meet our original guidance of closing
before year-end. |
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Only two events need to occur before closing. A successful
shareholder vote on November 14 and the signing of a final
agreement with the Department of Justice. |
We expect to conclude the process with the Department of
Justice in early December. |
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All the cash received from divestitures will be used for
debt reduction. We will reduce debt by over $2 billion
during the first three years of the merger. |
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As Ed mentioned, all required financing is in place. And
there is no need to look to debt capital markets until 2011. |
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As discussed previously, our organizations came together
after the merger was announced and formed an integration
team that has equal participation from Republic and Allied. |
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These teams developed a detailed integration plan that
ranges from Day 1 through 2010. As part of the planning
process our integration teams have documented synergy
savings and the timing for realizing these benefits. |
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And I am very confident that the $150 million in near-term
synergies have been identified and we have greater clarity
and definition. And that we will realize the benefits of
these synergies in the second half of 2010. |
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Our integration teams have identified additional savings
that have been placed in what we call the parking lot. And
we will realize some of these savings in the at the lat -
in the latter part of the first three years. |
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Our IT organization has completed a detailed systems review.
And all systems for the new organization have been selected.
A conversion plan has been finalized and will be completed
in a timely manner. |
Both companies have significant experience in major system
implementations and internal and external resources have
been allocated to this project. |
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We named more than 100 executives for the new Republic
Services at corporate, region and area levels. All these
individuals have participated in the integration planning
and training. |
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In addition, (Don Flager) and I have visited all four region
offices to roll out post merger operational strategies
within the last week. |
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And let me go on to tell you that theres a lot of
enthusiasm amongst our top management. We concluded a day
session where we transferred and looked for the field to
come back and add a sense of realism to our plans, in
addition to additional challenges to exceed the plans. |
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That evening we had a dinner. And I think whatever cultural
issues that we may have anticipated, I think (Don) and I
would both attest to that there, the teams came together
very quickly. And there was a lot of enthusiasm. |
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And I think its reflected in some of the stories that were
told at dinner those night that night. So its a great
team of people. Well complete the corporate office staffing
and the field staffing with the next 10 to 14 days. |
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Id also like to thank all the employees at Republic and
Allied for their efforts in this integration planning
process. We announced the merger on June 23. Many investors were concerned about the integration risks and the failures that
occurred in previous transitions. |
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The primary reason for these failures were lack of planning and financial
strength. This is not the case in Republic and Allieds merger. Weve spent over
20,000 man-hours on integration planning. And we have received investment grade
ratings on a ProForma basis. |
We are well positioned for a successful transaction. At this time operator Id
like to open the call to questions. |
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Coordinator: | If youd like to ask a question press star 1. Please un-mute your phone and record your name. To withdraw
your question press star 2. |
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Once again its star 1 to ask a question. And each participant will be allowed one question and one follow-up
question. |
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Jim OConnor: | Well I guess in light of todays economy and the results of our quarter, it looks pretty good. Operator do
you have any questions yet coming in? |
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Coordinator: | Yes the first question is from (David Feinberg) of Goldman Sachs. |
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Jim OConnor: | Hello (David). |
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(David Feinberg): | Hey can you hear me? |
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Jim OConnor: | I sure can. |
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(David Feinberg): | Great. So first question the wanted to know what impact if any there might be
from the class action settlement that you announced yesterday as well to financials and to
cash flow? |
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Jim OConnor: | Its immaterial. Im going to let Tod, or (David Barclay) our General Counsel is
here with us. You want to talk to that at all? |
(David Barclay): | Yes, no this was settled on the basis of just a few additional disclosures that
were contained in our 8-K. And there will be a modest fee award likely within the next three
to four weeks. |
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(David Feinberg): | And that, just so I understand that fee award goes to the shareholders? Is that
true. |
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(David Barclay): | No that would be, no there is not a monetary settlement. The fees will be going to
the plaintiffs council on the case. |
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(David Feinberg): | Understood. And then, you know, turning to the broad economy and then Ill hand
it over, Republic has a nice footprint in a sunbelt of the United States which unfortunately
has felt the brunt of the slowdown earlier then the other parts of the economy. |
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As, you know, we here at Goldman and I think more broadly are looking for a
broader based US slow down in 09. Just thought that maybe you can give us some
insight in terms of how you expect perhaps your volume growth to play out and or
your pricing strategies based on your experience operating in some of these
markets that were hardest hit by the housing downturn? |
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Tod Holmes: | Sure, David this is Tod. I, you know, I think that, you know, weve been through a couple economic cycles
here in this business in the early 90s and 2001, 2002. |
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And typically what youll see, and it depends on, you know, if this ones deeper and longer than those cycles. |
But typically what you see is probably four to six quarters of negative volumes. So, you know, we would look
for 2009 to be a soft year from a volume standpoint. |
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But again, historically the volume declines have been primarily in the construction area, both residential
which weve seen this past year and maybe in the future commercial construction. |
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And then in some of the other landfill related volumes associated with construction. The other business tends
to maybe flatten out a little bit. |
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You know, on the margin side typically what well see is an uptick in bad debt expense from a 20, 30, 40
basis point range to maybe a 40 to 70 basis point range. |
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So the margins might come under a little bit of pressure. But, you know, again the equipment in this business
is, its on wheels. We can move it around. Theres a strong replacement cycle that would be that you can
slow down as well as obviously the growth capital. |
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So typically the cash flows hold up quite well. |
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Jim OConnor: | And I think the pricing is a discipline and a discipline that is imbedded in the, you know, in the Republic
management team in the process. |
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So we dont see any reason why we wouldnt continue along with pricing guidance in the area of 50 to 100
basis points above CPI. |
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(David Feinberg): | Thank you very much. |
Jim OConnor: | Thanks. |
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Coordinator: | The next question is from (Cory Greendale) from (First Analysis). |
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(Cory Greendale): | Hi. |
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Man: | Good morning (Cory). |
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(Cory Greendale): | And Jim, your comment is right. That doesnt mean there arent questions. But
congratulations on holding up well through the downturn regardless. |
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Jim OConnor: | Thank you. |
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(Cory Greendale): | So the first question I had was also on the pricing. So I know that you guys are
being disciplined on pricing. What, you know, what how would you give us confidence that the
same will be true in smaller competitors? |
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And that if they start to get more aggressive on price, that wont mean that
youll start to lose increasingly profitable volumes if the downturn continues? |
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Jim OConnor: | Well I mean I think it is, you know, it, you know, again
when were focused on returns and cash value creation, were
talking about continuous improvement in contribution. |
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And, you know, inflation is starting to set in. We saw fuel,
we seen fuel, you know, most recently kind of pull back here
a little bit. But for the most part I think there, you know,
the independents are feeling the same cost pressures that we
are. |
And, you know, so I dont, I really dont anticipate a lot
of pricing pressure there. If we would have seen it, I think
we would have seen a lot of it already in the temporary
construction business. |
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I think the, you know, the larger independents as I said are
probably much more rational. Theyre looking at, you know,
how hard it is to recover pricing as we are. |
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And weve elected to take, you know, a position that, you
know, were going to hold the pricing even if it means loss
of some volume. |
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And, you know, and I think what weve seen in the larger
urban markets, that the independent sector has clearly
pretty much followed that. And its reflected in our
retention rates and our pricing. |
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(Cory Greendale): | Okay and could you help us think through what the potential impact could be of
commodity prices falling. You know, Waste talked about that on their call. I know youre not
as exposed as they are. But it could have a noticeable impact on the P&L? |
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Jim OConnor: | Well I think what, you know, were seeing similar impacts. You know, the current pricing for fiber today, OCC and
ONP is in the $40 to $60 ton range. |
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And if you went to the early parts of 08, were somewhere up around the $130 to $160 range. So theres been a
significant drop off. |
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If you look at, you know, these prices, you know, running through the third quarter, were looking at an earnings
impact in the third quarter of probably about 2 1/2 to 3 cents. |
Man: | No, fourth quarter. |
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Jim OConnor: | Im sorry the fourth quarter, 2 1/2 to 3 cents. And, you know, so I mean again when you lose that much price,
even though the volumes of fiber within Republic are relatively small. |
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I think our total production on an annual basis is about, what did we say? |
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Man: | Two hundred thousand tons a year of fiber. |
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Jim OConnor: | Two hundred thousand tons of fiber. So, you know, were going to see some impact. And obviously if that continues
on well see impact next year. |
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Now I think the positive for us is that we recognize that going into a weakening economy, that could we could
see some stress on the commodity prices. |
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And we hedged our commodities where we werent, we didnt have floors already. So when you look at our overall
fiber that we produce, weve got
about over half of it is either protected by floor pricing, which is in a range
of about $75 to $85 a ton. |
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And weve got a good component hedged now. So over half of our volume us
protected with hedge and floors. |
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Coordinator: | The next question is from (Jonathan Ellis) from Merrill Lynch. |
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(Jonathan Ellis): | Thanks and good morning guys. Wanted to just talk briefly about landfill pricing.
You mentioned I think first off that pricing was up 3.4% this quarter. |
I, it seems like theres a slight deceleration from last quarter. I think last
quarter pricing was up 3.7%. So wanted, I was hoping you could shed some light
on the deceleration there? |
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And just in addition to that, if MSW pricing was up I think you said over 4%,
where was the weakness that offset that to get up with to get to a blended
average of 3.4%? |
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Jim OConnor: | Well I think a lot of it really comes from the mix of MSW
with the construction volume, the non-MSW. |
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The MSW volume was about, I think I said earlier about 4.1%
or 4.2%. So, you know, we still see for reoccurring revenue
streams on the landfill pricing holding up pretty well. |
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C&D volume was actually up about 2% from a pricing
standpoint. So I think thats what youre seeing in that
sequential slight step down. |
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(Jonathan Ellis): | Okay and just on the, in overall pricing a slight sequential deceleration to 3.8%
from over 4% last quarter. And my understanding is given the concentration of your municipal
agreements that have resets around July 1, typically you get either core pricing that holds
flat to accelerate slightly between 2Q and 3Q. |
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So can you just help us understand what the resets were in those contracts this
year and perhaps what they may look like for next year? |
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Jim OConnor: | Yes the, you know, I think the resets this year, which were typically either, you know, July 1 through
September 30 were probably, you know, around 3% or so. |
You know, what weve got right now this year on a year to date basis is CPI thats running at about 4 1/2%. |
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So, you know, while in the past we had talked about how Republic because of its heavy franchise business was a
little bit slower in getting prices as, for example fuel and inflation was moving up. |
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Were probably at a, well maybe were at an inflection point. And so December of this year, you know, if
pricing in the fourth quarter holds well have over a 4% CPI that will go into many of these contracts next
summer. |
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So, you know, certainly thats something thats going to benefit the company in 2009. Next question. |
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Coordinator: | The next question comes is from (Scott Levine) from JP Morgan. |
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(Scott Levine): | Good morning. |
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Jim OConnor: | Good morning Scott. How are you? |
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(Scott Levine): | Well, how are you? |
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Jim OConnor: | Pretty good. |
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(Scott Levine): | On fuel, have you guys stopped at any new hedges there and remind us what hedges
you do have in place and whether you guys would be thinking with the recent pull back of
hedging at more of your fuel exposure in the franchise markets or elsewhere? |
Ed Lang: | (Scott) this is Ed. The only hedging weve done this year is
related to specific contract renewals where those
communities did not want to include a fuel surcharge. |
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So we locked in the fuel cost into the those contracts
through a financial transaction. |
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So this year about 10% of our total fuel risk was hedged.
Next year it will step up to about 13% or 14%. And thats
the impact of the hedges we put in place specific to certain
contract renewals that occurred in 2008. |
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Jim OConnor: | And (Scott) we continue to evaluate our position there. I
mean were, you know, were very well aware of where crude
is at today. And weve have significant internal discussions
as to what our policy going forward should be as it relates
to hedging. |
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(Scott Levine): | Got it. And one last one, on management philosophy, you know, you guys have, you
know, my perception has been even for the decentralized model in the past. |
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Do you view any changes to your philosophy given the merger with Allied, given
the changes to the business on a ProForma basis, anything along those lines? |
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Jim OConnor: | No. In fact actually, you know, there have been a lot of questions along these lines. And I think, you know, I
can speak for Republic and I think I can speak for Allied that at the end of the day were more alike then not. |
And decentralization is something we practice where its appropriate to practice. You know, a particular function
should be centralized, theyre centralized such as procurement of capital assets or treasury functions. |
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You know, so I mean I look at it and I kind of say look it, decentralization in my mind relates to the field
organization being able to make market decisions, all right, relating to the customer base. |
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Theres a lot of other things that were looking to standardize and streamline through a number of best practices
that Allieds already got in place and that Republic has been practicing. |
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So, you know, at the end of the day theyre very much alike. And dont really see much change in the way we
conduct our business or the phil you know, the philosophy as it relates to decentralization. |
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Coordinator: | There are no further questions at this time. |
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Jim OConnor: | Thank you operator. Id like to remind everyone that a recording of this call is available for the next 24 hours
by calling area code 203-369-1806. Additionally, a recording of the call will be available on Republics Web site
at republicservices.com. |
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And again, thank you all for spending time with us today. Have a great day. Thanks. |
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Coordinator: | That concludes todays conference. You may disconnect at this time. |